Supernatural Season 6 Premiere
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annundrielThings on my mind after the premiere. Spoilers, obviously.
Supernatural - "Exile on Main St."
My mom and I both enjoyed it.
My only issue, which she and I discussed briefly, was Lisa taking Dean in so readily.
Well, okay, I had several issues related to that and their conversation on the stairs at Bobby's.
But until they tell me otherwise, I'm going to run with the idea that those first few months with Dean? He and Lisa were only cohabitating. I will fairly happily believe that she was willing to give him a safe place to stay and things eventually evolved to them being a couple from there.
Maybe this is a dumb way for me to go about things, but whatever. It works for me. I've got friends who have known their spouses for less time than Dean's lived with Lisa.
The only thing that puts a damper in this is how the neighborhood sees the relationship. ::shrug::
Anyway, so there's that.
My other issues were, I dunno, what she said about him saving the world and giving him some leeway because of it. As long as that leeway doesn't include, "Oh, you saved us! Here is a nice warm spot in my bed."
Also, best year of her life? Really?
Yeah, okay, the whole Lisa was great without Dean until Dean showed up thing bugs me. A lot.
But, uh, yeah, it was a whole year. We don't know how fast things progressed. I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt because it will drive me less crazy.
The Campbells are...well. Not particularly likable. My mom pointed out that just because Grandpa Campbell says he's Grandpa Campbell? Doesn't mean he really is. Something hinky is going on there.
Y'know, I think that's what I liked about this episode. It moved us away from the events of last season and opened the door for something new but recognizable. Things weren't completely forgotten. I even thought Cas was mentioned plenty.
And Dean and Sam, Dean and Sam....
I liked the montage at the beginning because it didn't read as happy. (I also felt the music used was telling.) It read as Dean making due. Which was held up by his reaction to Sam coming back and (finally) making himself known. He's there because Sam told him to be. Because that's what Sam wanted him to do. It has nothing to do with Lisa or Ben; it all comes back to Sam.
This second time, staying with them instead of going with Sam, it's Dean's sense of responsibility keeping him there. His desire to protect. Like it or not, Dean cares about them to some extent. And we've seen him protect people he barely knows.
Well, and also the fact that Sam is a lying liar. I mean, COME ON. I wanted Dean to pull the "You don't get to make that decision for me" card. Y'know, the one that the romantic interests of heros get to play? Or should, anyway.
I kinda wanted Dean to punch Sam in the face instead of hugging him.
Mom said she was really uncomfortable during the final scene. I said that was the point. They're off balance, and we should feel it.
Also, Sam is...off. Something is up. Oh, going with Mom's Grandpa Campbell comment, is it really Sam?
Jensen killed me right before the credits rolled. I mean...you just know Dean's throat feels too tight and his chest feels constricted and he wants so badly to do something, something other than what he's doing, but he doesn't feel like he can.
He's always trying to do things for other people, and the things he has for himself are never completely his.
The more people in your life, the more complicated it gets.
Basically, I think it's a decent start to the season. There was nothing I found super objectionable or worrisome. I was reminded a bit of last season when Dean and Sam went their separate ways and how freaked out fandom got. That lasted, what? Two episodes? Anything happening now, I'm good sitting through to see where they'll take it.
Meanwhile, the absolute BEST comment of the night was when Sam appeared out of nowhere for the first time with the antidote.
MOM: Did he just shoot him full of come?
ME: ::double-take:: What?
MOM: ::mumble:: Glue? Did he shoot him full of glue?
ME: THAT IS NOT WHAT YOU SAID.
MOM: What do you think I said?
ME: NOT THAT.
MOM: Did he shoot him full of kumquat?
ME: Closer. Just the first part?
MOM: ::nods::
It was amazing.
And awful.
I love her.
PLEASE keep in mind that I am UNSPOILED for season six. I would like to remain that way.
Supernatural - "Exile on Main St."
My mom and I both enjoyed it.
My only issue, which she and I discussed briefly, was Lisa taking Dean in so readily.
Well, okay, I had several issues related to that and their conversation on the stairs at Bobby's.
But until they tell me otherwise, I'm going to run with the idea that those first few months with Dean? He and Lisa were only cohabitating. I will fairly happily believe that she was willing to give him a safe place to stay and things eventually evolved to them being a couple from there.
Maybe this is a dumb way for me to go about things, but whatever. It works for me. I've got friends who have known their spouses for less time than Dean's lived with Lisa.
The only thing that puts a damper in this is how the neighborhood sees the relationship. ::shrug::
Anyway, so there's that.
My other issues were, I dunno, what she said about him saving the world and giving him some leeway because of it. As long as that leeway doesn't include, "Oh, you saved us! Here is a nice warm spot in my bed."
Also, best year of her life? Really?
Yeah, okay, the whole Lisa was great without Dean until Dean showed up thing bugs me. A lot.
But, uh, yeah, it was a whole year. We don't know how fast things progressed. I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt because it will drive me less crazy.
The Campbells are...well. Not particularly likable. My mom pointed out that just because Grandpa Campbell says he's Grandpa Campbell? Doesn't mean he really is. Something hinky is going on there.
Y'know, I think that's what I liked about this episode. It moved us away from the events of last season and opened the door for something new but recognizable. Things weren't completely forgotten. I even thought Cas was mentioned plenty.
And Dean and Sam, Dean and Sam....
I liked the montage at the beginning because it didn't read as happy. (I also felt the music used was telling.) It read as Dean making due. Which was held up by his reaction to Sam coming back and (finally) making himself known. He's there because Sam told him to be. Because that's what Sam wanted him to do. It has nothing to do with Lisa or Ben; it all comes back to Sam.
This second time, staying with them instead of going with Sam, it's Dean's sense of responsibility keeping him there. His desire to protect. Like it or not, Dean cares about them to some extent. And we've seen him protect people he barely knows.
Well, and also the fact that Sam is a lying liar. I mean, COME ON. I wanted Dean to pull the "You don't get to make that decision for me" card. Y'know, the one that the romantic interests of heros get to play? Or should, anyway.
I kinda wanted Dean to punch Sam in the face instead of hugging him.
Mom said she was really uncomfortable during the final scene. I said that was the point. They're off balance, and we should feel it.
Also, Sam is...off. Something is up. Oh, going with Mom's Grandpa Campbell comment, is it really Sam?
Jensen killed me right before the credits rolled. I mean...you just know Dean's throat feels too tight and his chest feels constricted and he wants so badly to do something, something other than what he's doing, but he doesn't feel like he can.
He's always trying to do things for other people, and the things he has for himself are never completely his.
The more people in your life, the more complicated it gets.
Basically, I think it's a decent start to the season. There was nothing I found super objectionable or worrisome. I was reminded a bit of last season when Dean and Sam went their separate ways and how freaked out fandom got. That lasted, what? Two episodes? Anything happening now, I'm good sitting through to see where they'll take it.
Meanwhile, the absolute BEST comment of the night was when Sam appeared out of nowhere for the first time with the antidote.
MOM: Did he just shoot him full of come?
ME: ::double-take:: What?
MOM: ::mumble:: Glue? Did he shoot him full of glue?
ME: THAT IS NOT WHAT YOU SAID.
MOM: What do you think I said?
ME: NOT THAT.
MOM: Did he shoot him full of kumquat?
ME: Closer. Just the first part?
MOM: ::nods::
It was amazing.
And awful.
I love her.
PLEASE keep in mind that I am UNSPOILED for season six. I would like to remain that way.
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Date: 2010-09-25 06:54 am (UTC)ME: ::double-take:: What?
LOL!
I agree with you about Sam and the Campbells. There is something funky going on there.
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Date: 2010-09-27 04:42 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2010-09-25 10:25 am (UTC)This was my thought exactly! I kept waiting for it, but it never happened.
I wanted Dean to pull the "You don't get to make that decision for me" card.
Yeah, he should have done that. To both Sam and Bobby. They let him believe Sam was dead for a whole year for crying out loud!
MOM: Did he just shoot him full of come?
ME: ::double-take:: What?
LOL. Your mom is awesome.
(no subject)
Date: 2010-09-27 04:47 am (UTC)I know they think that they're helping Dean by giving him a shot at breaking free. But Dean's an adult. He can make his own decisions. Lying to him isn't going to help him in anyway.
Dean's kind of stuck between a rock and a hard place.
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Date: 2010-09-25 01:06 pm (UTC)Just saying. ;-D
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Date: 2010-09-27 04:49 am (UTC)They should use their full cast. It would benefit them.
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Date: 2010-09-25 01:51 pm (UTC)best year of her life? Really?
I had a bit of trouble with that, too. I loved that Lisa called him an idiot, and that she seems to understand him completely, but when she said that I was all "wtf?". It could not have been easy taking in Dean like that, all broken and messed up. And from their conversation, it sounded like they had a pretty rough time of it together. I'm finding it really hard to believe it was the best year of her life. I'd have an easier time with 'good times are ahead now' or something like that.
Anyway, yeah, Dean definitely seemed like he was making do with his new life. He seemed most animated in the scenes with Ben, which was sweet.
I did love how creepy the Campbells were. Something's definitely not right there. I'm intrigued.
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Date: 2010-09-27 09:45 pm (UTC)Yes, I loved that, too! That, along with the scene in the garage, really made me feel like they did understand each other. Or at least that Lisa has Dean pegged. It was the rest of the conversation on the stairs that was kind of like, "um, what?" I mean, I guess I could almost see that it was a good year if you put a lot of weight on the fact that Lisa wanted a male figure Ben could look up to. But even that makes me frowny because, well, she seemed pretty happy before, just her and Ben.
It's one of those situations that, no matter how much I like Lisa, is never going to sit quite right with me.
I was a big fan of the montage and Dean's scenes with Ben. Aw, Dean.
I'm definitely looking forward to seeing where they go with the Campbells.
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Date: 2010-09-26 04:34 am (UTC)Also Sam/Samuel? Yeah obvious relation but grandpa S just keeps reminding me of Azazel, so I keep expecting him to start killing people.
And the whole thing with Lisa is never going to fly with me, unless they give her the background we haven't gotten. But her whole "best year of my life"-thing was sorta acceptable. I can understand it was the best because she had someone for her son, and that can be a miracle after her dating all those trucker loser guys. (No offense)
Im excited about the new girl in the Campbell family. We need more girls in that show who aren't either a. in love with Sam/Dean or b. bad guys.
As for Sam, I was waiting the whole episode for him and I feel like he's hardened, but that can be because he was in hell and he's been hunting without Dean, but I want Dean back with Sam already! I can't stand that he keeps getting someone else's responsibility. He raised Sam, then Ben and now I want him to find his own wife and have his own child and not the pieces of some other family. It's so frustrating because they give it to Sam but Dean....
I'm just happy they mentioned Cas and that the episode didn't go as badly as I thought it was going to.
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Date: 2010-09-30 04:17 am (UTC)I totally agree. At the moment, though, I'm not entirely sure of how good the Campbells are.
I can't stand that he keeps getting someone else's responsibility.
I feel similarly, but if Dean genuinely wanted the responsibility of Lisa and Ben...well. That's something else. And while he's with them trying to make a life because Sam told him to, he did go to Lisa of his own accord before that.
And while I do want to see Dean and Sam back together, there seems to be something not quite right with Sam. Though that may be his year on his own, or however long he spent with the Campbells.
I don't know, my feelings with regards to Dean and Sam are complicated. I hate seeing them miserable apart, but I also think they need to learn - in an honest, no dying way - how to live apart. At least a little.
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Date: 2010-09-27 03:05 pm (UTC)There has to be something wrong with Sam, even Jared's face expressions, he didn't look like Sam in that last goodbye scene, he looked like Lucifer for most of it, and it creeped me out! Not that I think that's actually Luc in a Sammy suit, but there's definetly something wrong there.
I kinda loved the Dean-Lisa talks, I thought it was done well. She just wanted Ben to have a dad, and in that respect Dean always did great the whole year, so....
Also, your mom is AWESOME!
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Date: 2010-09-30 04:01 am (UTC)There's something very...disconnected about the way Jared played Sam in the premiere. My mom and I keep going back to the look on Sam's face when Dean woke up and saw him for the first time. He had this small smile on his face. Which can have several explanations, good, bad, and sad. But it came off as creepy. Like Sam!Lucifer and his smiling in "The End."
Whether or not it was supposed to read as creepy, I don't know. But something is definitely off.
She just wanted Ben to have a dad, and in that respect Dean always did great the whole year, so....
There were parts of that talk on the stairs that I liked, and I liked the acknowledgment of how good Dean is with Ben. So I can appreciate that it's a great year for Lisa because of that.
And I loved that she called Dean an idiot.