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[annundriel]

Today's goal: kick the ass of that fic that's been languishing since February. I even have a rough outline of where it should go. There is no reason this porn should be taking me this long. Rarr.

I am tired of this fic making me feel useless.

And, seriously, if I don't finish it soon, someone needs to kick my ass and make me.



A couple more things about 5.21:

01. After sleeping on it, maybe Castiel isn't actually human human. Maybe he just needs time to recharge? Like he used up everything he had with that little suicide-stunt he pulled and now if he just waits, he'll eventually start to do angel-things again.

Picture it, Cas learning how to deal with humanity in a very hands-on way and then one day going to do something and, surprise!, angel powers. Like Sam discovering his psychic abilities.

02. Crap, I can't remember what 02 was....Oh!

Castiel, drugs, and future!Cas.

I would really like to think that, like Bobby not letting Cas whine about his new predicament, the people around Cas would help him not succumb to the depressing, drugged out Cas of the future.

Hmmm. However, Dean and Bobby both tend to drink a good deal. Which is probably not the best model for a fallen angel who is dealing with a lot of shit.

And if Bobby is telling Cas, "Hey, I don't want to hear it," Cas might take that to heart and just start...I don't know, self-medicating without telling anyone because, hey, they don't want to hear it.

Oh god.

Dear Supernatural,

Do not turn into an after school DRUGS ARE BAD special, 'mmmkay?

Love,
Me

I'm not...overly worried. But at this point that may be because I just want him to make it through the finale.

Comments

[lattimore.livejournal.com]

LOL. Now I'm imagining Castiel in that anti-drug PSA: "I learned from you, okay?! I learned it from watching you."

Maybe he just needs time to recharge? Like he used up everything he had with that little suicide-stunt he pulled and now if he just waits, he'll eventually start to do angel-things again.

Truuuue. But if his power derives from Heaven, is it possible for him to recharge or did that stunt simply hasten the process where he loses his power completely? I sound like a worried grandmother but I JUST WANT HIM TO BE HEALTHY AND HAPPY, OKAY.

[annundriel.livejournal.com]

Now I'm imagining Castiel in that anti-drug PSA: "I learned from you, okay?! I learned it from watching you."

LOL. Also, NO CAS, DON'T USE DEAN AND BOBBY AS EXAMPLES OF HEALTHY HUMAN LIVING. OR SAM.

But if his power derives from Heaven, is it possible for him to recharge or did that stunt simply hasten the process where he loses his power completely?

I have noooo idea. The latter, I think, but stranger things have happened. Maybe. It's so hard to tell on this show. But with him cut off from Heaven, I could see it being like Sam burning out his demonic powers by taking on Lucifer. He had a major surge to his system and now? System is fried.

I don't know, I was just speculating and trying to find a way for Cas to get his mojo back without them going serious deus ex machina with it. Like Father Christmas showing up and saying, "Here, Castiel, are your shiny angel powers. Use them wisely, and only to help those in need."

I sound like a worried grandmother but I JUST WANT HIM TO BE HEALTHY AND HAPPY, OKAY.

I THINK WE ALL DO. "Castiel! Don't go outside without your coat! And gloves! Where did your hat go? Have some more lasagna! And some pie! You need less stress and more food."

[wolfrider89.livejournal.com]

I love how I watch the episode, flail for a few minutes, and then go to read your thoughts on the matter. They're almost always the same kind of thoughts I had, but with a lot more coherency. ;)
I agree about Dean and Bobby really not being good role models, but it kind of seemed to be what Cas needed to hear when Bobby told him to shut up. (OK, so he didn't say that exactly, but you get the point):D
I was just so damn happy to see Cas again that it didn't really register at first, but yeah, now that you mention it, is he human? Or just like a human? Hmm.
Cas and Dean's phone conversation was made of win, even if I would have liked Dean to a little tiny bit happier to hear from him. Still, he's got a lot of shit on his plate. I think I'll go re-watch that scene and look for subtleties.
Cas in this episode? Adorable, badass, cute, HOT and so many more things. He always manages to do that. Misha, you are awesome.
*goes off in a Cas induced bliss*

[annundriel.livejournal.com]

Haha, I'm glad you think my thoughts are coherent! I'm glad they come off as coherent. I mostly feel full of flail when I'm making them and then worry it's just a jumble of OMG THINGS HAPPENED.

but it kind of seemed to be what Cas needed to hear when Bobby told him to shut up.

Totally. On the one hand, I was annoyed at Bobby for comparing his paralysis with Castiel being completely cut off from everything he has ever known ever. But on the other hand, right then was not the time to wallow in self-pity. He definitely needed a kick in the ass to get moving and stay moving.

Cas and Dean's phone conversation was made of win, even if I would have liked Dean to a little tiny bit happier to hear from him.

Ooh, can we pretend it was because other people were in the room? Maybe Dean was thinking, "OMG CAS. Don't sound too excited, don't sound too excited, but OMG CAS IS ALIVE." Trying to downplay his inner emotion because otherwise he'd get carried away. Like not mentioning lost friends (or Cas when they thought he was dead) because you're in a precarious emotional place.

Yup, that's my story and I'm sticking to it. :)

[wolfrider89.livejournal.com]

"OMG CAS. Don't sound too excited, don't sound too excited, but OMG CAS IS ALIVE." Trying to downplay his inner emotion because otherwise he'd get carried away.
Totally my head!canon now. :)

[rui-31.livejournal.com]

The whole Bobby thing is something I still do not like. I think it's because being paralyzed and no longer being an Angel of The LORD is like comparing apples with oranges. They are two completely different things and I did not like his reaction, sorry SPN.
And human!Cas, or low-on-batteries!Cas is still awesome, i loved his twitching while in the hospital bed. I do think that Cas could recharge, though he'd have to be replugged to heaven/the Host or he could a Lucifer thing, cuz seriously! How is that guy so strong!?!? And also he mentioned, when he took on Pestilence that he was still angel enough to overcome his sickness and cut off the guys finger, so maybe there's hope.
Death is awesome, although his own temper tantrum just proved he's just as bad as Lucifer is. "No! It's not fair! I've been enslaved by some SPELL! A freakin spell maaaaaaaan."
Though I'm just happy he didn't ask for Dean's soul.
Now I'm just worried that Cas is going to die...I just have this feeling that he's not the type to stay human and his returning to Heaven is kinda low right now... I'm worried...
Crowley/Bobby moments were hilarious!! Seriously SPN has got to stop giving fans couples to slash and then complain about where they get these ideas.
And yeah, I completely agree with you that Cas asking for Dean's forgiveness could only happen on the phone or it would be way too intimate. I can hear the squeeing now and the yelling of "KISS HIM".
And the bus...I thought Cas needed to take a plane? And how are his clothes so immaculate if they found him all bloody??
I only have one last question...if the cage is to hold Lucifer...does that mean when Sam throws himself in, his body gets stuck too? Or how does it work, because he's tied to his body then his soul remains on earth but Lucifer, who is not longer tied to a vessel, is thrown in the cage?? I'm so confused on how they're going to keep Sam alive for a 6th season. (Hope I'm not spoiling anything)
As for God, who says Death is talking about the same God Dean is? I mean we're just assuming that he's talking about Cas' God...for all we know he could be the ancient GOD that created ALL. Does he even mention a gender btw? I can't remember...
As for them not talking about Cas last week, I agree with you. Talking about fallen comrades hurts, they haven't talked about Jo or Ellen have they?
K that's it...I think I covered everything from your last entry to this one. I had a long time at work to think over the episode. :D Good luck with your writing!!! Drink lots of fluids ;)

[qthelights.livejournal.com]

As for God, who says Death is talking about the same God Dean is? I mean we're just assuming that he's talking about Cas' God...for all we know he could be the ancient GOD that created ALL. Does he even mention a gender btw? I can't remember...

Oh! I like your thinking! I think I shall choose to believe this. Yes.

[annundriel.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I wasn't too happy about Bobby's reaction to Castiel. But I do think Cas needed someone to get him moving in the right direction at that moment, which Bobby did.

And also he mentioned, when he took on Pestilence that he was still angel enough to overcome his sickness and cut off the guys finger, so maybe there's hope.

Totally true. He had enough of...something left to do what Sam and Dean couldn't.

I thought Cas needed to take a plane? And how are his clothes so immaculate if they found him all bloody??

I think he probably took the bus from the airport. Ooh, and maybe they cleaned his clothes at the hospital?

As for Sam and Lucifer...I have no idea how that's supposed to play out. I was assuming that if Sam jumps in while occupied by Lucifer, he would run the risk of being trapped, too. Unless he can somehow free himself from Lucifer? Or maybe by getting Lucifer in the cage, the being that is Lucifer would be trapped and his vessel would be free? I really have no idea!

As for God, who says Death is talking about the same God Dean is? I mean we're just assuming that he's talking about Cas' God...for all we know he could be the ancient GOD that created ALL.

I really like that idea! I said something in another comment that maybe we're talking about something that's more similar to the Greek pantheon. You've got the original creators, who gave birth to the Titans who in turn gave birth to the gods. We keep thinking of the gods as being as high up as it goes, but maybe that's not right.

Good luck with your writing!!! Drink lots of fluids ;)

Thank you! It is...going. I've had too much caffeine now and am switching to water. :D

[qthelights.livejournal.com]

Dear Supernatural,

Do not turn into an after school DRUGS ARE BAD special, 'mmmkay?


God, please no! I do not want to watch the whole Willow MAGICDRUGS ARE BAD thing over again! It was too much in Buffy, it would be EPICALLY BAD in SPN.

[annundriel.livejournal.com]

It was too much in Buffy, it would be EPICALLY BAD in SPN.

Ack! YES. No Willow repeats!

Since they've averted other aspects of that "future", let's hope they can avert that one, too. And that Cas' biggest addiction will be, I don't know, chocolate banana milkshakes.

[qthelights.livejournal.com]

Yes. Or doughnuts. Sugary ones. That Dean has to lick off his fingers.

That's an addiction I can get behind.

[annundriel.livejournal.com]

Mmmmmm.

Now that is an image I can get behind.

[foofasaurus.livejournal.com]

My feeling is that having seen what the potential future holds for Castiel if he goes down that road, and being horrified enough by it to SHARE A FEELING after, Dean probably won't encourage Cas to make booze a regular habit, or start in on the drugs. I think he feels enough responsibility for the state Cas is in now, to ever be okay with watching Cas go on that downward spiral.

THIS IS WHAT I TELL MYSELF. That the point of The End was to bring Dean to a point where he tries to do everything he can not to let any of that happen, which includes orgy-loving, drugged-up Castiel.

[annundriel.livejournal.com]

...having seen what the potential future holds for Castiel if he goes down that road, and being horrified enough by it to SHARE A FEELING after, Dean probably won't encourage Cas to make booze a regular habit, or start in on the drugs. I think he feels enough responsibility for the state Cas is in now, to ever be okay with watching Cas go on that downward spiral.

I'm totally hoping that this is how it goes. Because I agree about Dean. "Don't ever change," he said, and he meant it. So I'm hoping that there's enough of a support group for Cas that he doesn't need to resort to drowning or drugging his pain. Especially if the rest of that future doesn't happen.