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[annundriel]

I feel kinda bad and disconnected from my friends, RL and LJ.

So, my dear friends that read this, if I have neglected you on LJ, blame college.

I need some human contact. I can't hug anyone here. Except on weekends when I'm at my aunt's. Here I'm not just going to go up to some person randomly and say, "Hi. I need a hug" and hug them. Because that would be odd. Maybe I'm just too touchy feely sometimes.

Anyone up for having a philosophical discussion about anything?

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[out-of-focusguy.livejournal.com]

philosophical discusions. (ears prick up.) definitely.

i don't know how philosophical this is, but....
if a person committed a crime, and someones coming at them with a gun. would the victim confess (and apologise) or would they deny, deny, deny?

or would this be a matter of opinion? or would it depend on the person who committed the crime?

ummm, yeah. i was just wondering this yesterday. something i saw in a movie once made me question this.

by the way, i really like your icon.

[annundriel.livejournal.com]

I knew I'd get someone's attention with philosophical discussions.

I think it's a matter of opinion. Personally, I think if I had just committed a crime (felon that I am) and someone was coming after me with a gun, I would pretty much confess to anything to keep from being shot. Other people, however, may deny everything in the hope that no one actually saw.

Now there's a question. Did the person coming after them with a gun see them commit the crime? Or are they just a random person with a gun? For example, Bob is involved in a hit and run. No one knows. The next day Bob is at the bank and there is a heist. Does Bob feel compelled to reveal his sin in the face of death?

It's a very interesting question.

Thanks. I admire people who can make nice icons. I like your icon, too.

[out-of-focusguy.livejournal.com]

ok. the person with the gun did not actually see the person commit the crime, but they are very close to them. close enough to see them on an every-day basis.

so the victim could only assume they know (and found out some how) because they are walking towards them with a gun and an "i'm gonna literally kill you" look in their eyes.

i agree with you in that it all depends on the person, and how they react to things. but i can't help but want to drag human nature into this. i know if someone were coming at me with a gun, i would confess on the spot in hopes they would spare me.

[annundriel.livejournal.com]

Well. If the person with the gun is close enough to the criminal, I'd almost say that the person with the crime would confess gun or no because of the pressure. "Do they know? Nah...But what if they do?" That sort of thing.

But the gun tops it. Why is the person coming at the with the gun? Do they know the crime, or are they the criminal? What is justice and when can people take it into their own hands? Can they?

I think there are probably two basic reactions to it. You are either the kind of person who would confess or the kind of person who would deny and bargain and try to worm out of repercussions.

I still think I'd probably confess.

[out-of-focusguy.livejournal.com]

i think you're right. it all depends on the kind of person you are. i would also confess.

and so ends this discussion. i really want to tell you the movie so i could talk to you about it but i don't want to give anything away. what movies have you seen recently?

[annundriel.livejournal.com]

Recently I've only seen Master & Commander and Gothika in theaters and a handful of other stuff out. I'm really curious about what movie this is though. Do tell!

[out-of-focusguy.livejournal.com]

okay. here is the answer. now that i know you have seen the movie. it is gothica. i just changed the ax to a gun because i didn't want to ruin anything.

but yeah... i just thought that was interesting when she was coming at him with that look in her eyes and ax in her raised hands and he still didn't confess.

[annundriel.livejournal.com]

Wow. I had no idea that was the movie! I kept thinking, "Could it be? Nah, surely not." Way to go with the misdirection.

And now I see it completely. It is strange that he didn't confess while she's coming at him. Maybe it is because he figured it was something she could never know and so it never actually crossed his mind. Maybe he was just too confused in the whole "Oh my gosh, my wife is coming at me with an ax" kind of way to realize what was happening and why.

And maybe he just didn't think it was wrong and as such it was not something he needed to confess to. Not sure if I believe that, but the mind is a funny thing.

What did you think of the movie?

[out-of-focusguy.livejournal.com]

i guess that the fact that he did do the raping and snuff films (is that what they're called?) shows something was obviously wrong with him, or maybe i should just be nice and say "differnt". so being that his mind worked differently, i could see that his reaction would be differnt from any sane person's (like you or me) reaction of wanting to confess.

to be honest, i didn't really care for the movie, and it was mostly because i predicted everything that was going to happen before the first 20 minutes of the movie had passed. it was him too. the husband gave it all away for me. the whole "i'm god" thing he said in the beginning to his wife when they were looking in the mirror in his office.

and then that led to the whole "its good being god" comment on the camera in the end. ummm, i hope no one who hasn't seen the movie reads these comments.

the other thing that really bugged me about the movie, was the title. where did they get it from? what does it have to do with the movie? it almost seemed to me like they just chose it and add the "a" at the end to be cool. i don't know. i went into that movie really excited and relly wanting to like it. sorry if i'm baggin on the movie, but yeah... those are my thoughts.

i hate analyzing movies. it completely ruined this one for me. but at the same time, i can't help it. errrg, with the unconscious habits! (shakes fist)

[annundriel.livejournal.com]

Though my knowledge on the subject is limited, I do believe they are called snuff films. I think the fact that he did all of these things and then believed that he was not guilty shows that there is something wrong with him. On some levels I think he honestly didn't believe what he was doing was wrong. This is actually a whole idea that has always nagged at my mind when I get into debates, especially religious ones.

I thought the movie was mediocre, neither amazing nor terrible. It was just "eh". I didn't even jump. But then I am pretty good at picking up on when scary things are going to happen and bracing myself. And this really could have been really good. It could have been great. And I think the difference between what it is and what it could have been lies within the last few shots of the film. If this had lived up to potential, those last few shots would have really bothered me, but as it was they did not. (Whereas the only part of The Blair Witch Project, a crappy movie IMO, that scared me at all was the final shot.)

I did predict what was going to happen, but only about 20 minutes before it did happen. Picked up stuff long before the rest of the theatre though, which is probably why I didn't jump as much.

I totally agree with you about the title. I think it's another one of those "not living up to it's potential" kind of things. And I don't think you're baggin on the movie. We all have our opinions and sometimes movies just suck. Not that this one did. It just marginally...vacuumed. (I was trying to be clever there. Obviously it didn't work.)

Oh, do I have things to say about analyzing things. A friend of mine asked me this quarter if I ever read for fun right after she told me that I analyze everything everyone says. I only read for fun! I just like thinking about it. I've always just taken it to mean that my brain is working. So, yeah. Don't shake your unconcious habits, they can lead to lively discussion. :-)

Oh, I'm also reading a book at the moment that I think you might find interesting.