Torchwood: Children of Earth
Jul. 23rd, 2009 10:46 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
annundriel"Day Four"
I think Mom's reaction pretty much covers it: "What the fuck was that?"
Indeed. I had a feeling something like this was coming, we both did. We just expected it to take longer. You know, at least until tomorrow. But no. That actually happened.
They talk about Gwen being the heart of Torchwood, the moral center, and that may be true. But I think Ianto was Jack's. During the "inside look" thing afterward, Gareth David-Lloyd said something to the effect of Jack finally making the decision Ianto wants him to make. And Ianto's there with him the whole time, standing solidly at his side. Because that is what Ianto does; he shores Jack up, even when/if Jack is being an ass. Because that is where his love and his loyalty lie.
And, God, I love him for it. So much. For that and for so many other things that have made him one of the main reasons I tuned in every episode.
Only now he is dead and I don't know if I can tune in for the Jack and Gwen Show if they go for another season. I think I can, because I still love the premise and I've been enjoying Gwen more this season, but I don't want it to continue on with a, "Oh yeah, that guy was here and he made coffee and now he's gone," and no other acknowledgment that they've lost someone important to the team and Jack's lost someone intimately important to himself.
My only complaint about the death scene, other than it existing at all, is that Jack didn't get an "I love you" out there.
Kind of representative of their relationship, in a way; Ianto pushing and pushing and Jack only giving so much. Which I'm not angry at Jack about, not at the moment anyway, but I was just looking for something and I was reminded of all of the little scenes last season that made me want to kick Jack in the head for not taking Ianto's hand whenever he reached out as quickly as I would have liked him to. But then you'd get moments like the "Are you asking me out on a date?" scene in "Kiss Kiss Bang Bang" or the kiss and the scene leading up to it in "To the Last Man" which were so completely lovely.
Because there really is no doubt in my mind that Jack loves Ianto. But I think even with all of that experience, you still don't know what you've got until it's gone.
And, oh, I want Jack to remember him so badly. Jack, a fixed point in time and space, with his infinite memory and somewhere in there is a Welsh teaboy who made fantastic coffee, looked good in a suit, and stood by Jack until the end.
Alice said that a man who can't die has nothing to lose. Take away the things he can lose? You'd better be prepared for the consequences. I will be seriously disappointed if Jack just rolls over and lets the government go through with their plan.
So:
- I'm still waiting for an explanation on Clem. I may have missed something. Did he run away or did the 456 leave him behind for some reason? And what about the heightened sense of smell?
- If they kill Rhys, too, so help me, I don't know what I'll do.
- Turns out Johnson may not be a person who needs to die a horrible death after all. She was being used as much as anybody. Or, really, just doing her job.
- I really do like Lois.
- Those meetings reminded me so much of the council meetings I go to. Not the subject matter, of course, but sometimes I sit there and listen to officials and commissioners and committee members and wonder where their common sense or general decency is. But it's not that they're corrupt or evil, they're just trying to do their jobs. These people were handed a really shitty hand. Is their decision forgivable?
All I could think about was the local school district, the kids I sub for and see at the library weekly. They're the type of kids that would probably end up on that list.
- Ianto got to say goodbye to his family. :( I want to see Jack go to them, tell them what's happened, tell them what Ianto meant.
- I really liked the way the last bit was shot with Gwen and the bodies laid out. And Jack gasping back to life. Like waking up from a bad dream only it's all very real.
- I want answers tomorrow. There had better be some. Like what they're doing with the children. Why they need them. Why that many now when there was only twelve before.
- I want to talk about Ianto's character arch through the series, but I think that's for another post and another day.
I guess with this being Torchwood there is the chance that Ianto's not permanently dead. But...I don't think so. I think this is it. I think I still need tissues.
Oh my God. Seriously. Just. Go ahead and break my heart.
I think Mom's reaction pretty much covers it: "What the fuck was that?"
Indeed. I had a feeling something like this was coming, we both did. We just expected it to take longer. You know, at least until tomorrow. But no. That actually happened.
They talk about Gwen being the heart of Torchwood, the moral center, and that may be true. But I think Ianto was Jack's. During the "inside look" thing afterward, Gareth David-Lloyd said something to the effect of Jack finally making the decision Ianto wants him to make. And Ianto's there with him the whole time, standing solidly at his side. Because that is what Ianto does; he shores Jack up, even when/if Jack is being an ass. Because that is where his love and his loyalty lie.
And, God, I love him for it. So much. For that and for so many other things that have made him one of the main reasons I tuned in every episode.
Only now he is dead and I don't know if I can tune in for the Jack and Gwen Show if they go for another season. I think I can, because I still love the premise and I've been enjoying Gwen more this season, but I don't want it to continue on with a, "Oh yeah, that guy was here and he made coffee and now he's gone," and no other acknowledgment that they've lost someone important to the team and Jack's lost someone intimately important to himself.
My only complaint about the death scene, other than it existing at all, is that Jack didn't get an "I love you" out there.
Kind of representative of their relationship, in a way; Ianto pushing and pushing and Jack only giving so much. Which I'm not angry at Jack about, not at the moment anyway, but I was just looking for something and I was reminded of all of the little scenes last season that made me want to kick Jack in the head for not taking Ianto's hand whenever he reached out as quickly as I would have liked him to. But then you'd get moments like the "Are you asking me out on a date?" scene in "Kiss Kiss Bang Bang" or the kiss and the scene leading up to it in "To the Last Man" which were so completely lovely.
Because there really is no doubt in my mind that Jack loves Ianto. But I think even with all of that experience, you still don't know what you've got until it's gone.
And, oh, I want Jack to remember him so badly. Jack, a fixed point in time and space, with his infinite memory and somewhere in there is a Welsh teaboy who made fantastic coffee, looked good in a suit, and stood by Jack until the end.
Alice said that a man who can't die has nothing to lose. Take away the things he can lose? You'd better be prepared for the consequences. I will be seriously disappointed if Jack just rolls over and lets the government go through with their plan.
So:
- I'm still waiting for an explanation on Clem. I may have missed something. Did he run away or did the 456 leave him behind for some reason? And what about the heightened sense of smell?
- If they kill Rhys, too, so help me, I don't know what I'll do.
- Turns out Johnson may not be a person who needs to die a horrible death after all. She was being used as much as anybody. Or, really, just doing her job.
- I really do like Lois.
- Those meetings reminded me so much of the council meetings I go to. Not the subject matter, of course, but sometimes I sit there and listen to officials and commissioners and committee members and wonder where their common sense or general decency is. But it's not that they're corrupt or evil, they're just trying to do their jobs. These people were handed a really shitty hand. Is their decision forgivable?
All I could think about was the local school district, the kids I sub for and see at the library weekly. They're the type of kids that would probably end up on that list.
- Ianto got to say goodbye to his family. :( I want to see Jack go to them, tell them what's happened, tell them what Ianto meant.
- I really liked the way the last bit was shot with Gwen and the bodies laid out. And Jack gasping back to life. Like waking up from a bad dream only it's all very real.
- I want answers tomorrow. There had better be some. Like what they're doing with the children. Why they need them. Why that many now when there was only twelve before.
- I want to talk about Ianto's character arch through the series, but I think that's for another post and another day.
I guess with this being Torchwood there is the chance that Ianto's not permanently dead. But...I don't think so. I think this is it. I think I still need tissues.
Oh my God. Seriously. Just. Go ahead and break my heart.
