SPN 6.10, Misfits, and New Computer (YEA!)

[annundriel]

I wasn't sure what I wanted to say last night. Now I am. Kind of.

Supernatural - "Caged Heat"

So. That episode happened. I wasn't too upset by any of it last night while watching, but now that I've slept on it (and thought about it while washing my hair; all the best thoughts happen then) I find I am actually really angry. Though maybe not at the parts I should be angry at.

There was the porn, and the kiss, and, y'know, Crowley bursting into flames, but the part that annoys me?

Did I imagine it, or did Dean actually tell Castiel, "Hey, no apologies necessary, you've got a big steaming pile of crap to deal with. We're friends"?

That happened, right?

WHAT THE HELL, DEAN?

YOU ARE AN ASSHOLE.

You cannot spend the entire season so far growling at Cas for going off to deal with a CIVIL WAR IN HEAVEN and then turn sympathetic eyes on him when he's made to feel bad enough that he feels the need to apologize. You're going to give the guy whiplash.

Ugh.

The other thing that annoys me: Samuel and Mary. As my mom pointed out, "What about Samuel's wife?" Yeah, what about her? Samuel was riding backseat to the Yellow-Eyed Demon when he killed her. He was there for that. She was his wife. And still everything comes back to Mary. I mean, I get that she's his daughter and that he loves her, but...he was dead before anything happened with her.

And then there was that whole bit where they stripped Meg down and tortured her. UGH.

As for the other stuff - the porn, the kiss, Crowley.

The porn I found...mildly amusing, though I'd rather it hadn't happened. :/ It's awkward and uncomfortable and I don't particularly like it when sex is played for lulz.

And the kiss? If it had been someone other than Meg, yeah, okay. But a demon? No. I'll admit to liking s3!Ruby (I like Katie Cassidy, okay.) and the idea of demons who want are unhappy being demons and want to change their ways. Something like that would have been...maybe okay. But Meg isn't like that. Meg takes pleasure in being evil.

So I'm just going to run on the idea that Cas' body went on autopilot and try not to let it bother me too much. Especially since later when Dean joked about the two of them getting a room (or whatever), Castiel was all "Why would I want that?"

Mom and I did laugh at the "I learned that from the pizza man." And I'll admit that I liked the "whoa" reaction the kiss elicited from Meg. I can't help it if I like it when Castiel surprises people, even if it has to do with a creepy kiss.

As for Crowley...Mom thinks Cas did it because they needed to move forward and he was tired of being yanked around. Honestly? I can't blame him.

I mean, I know a lot of people LOVE Crowley. I love Crowley. But he's also a demon. And he was going to continue to do what he could to have things progress in a way that benefited him. Though, all right, Castiel didn't have to kill him, but...yeah. I can't blame him. ::shrug::

Maybe I'd be angrier if I had been paying more attention. It's been hard for me to remain completely absorbed in episodes this season. Which may be for the best.

Or, y'know, give me a couple of days for it to sink in more. Than I'll be angry.

Mom has been equating this all with a bad dream. Some parts are good, but then you run into sections that make no sense and leave you going, "Wait. What?"

Yeah. That's pretty much how I'm feeling.

ETA: HEY. What about Adam? No one's worried about him stuck down in that hole with Lucifer and Michael and Sam's poor tortured soul?


Anyway. I'm posting this from my BRAND NEW LAPTOP. IT'S PURPLE. SOOOOO PRETTY. <3 Typing on it is weird, though, and I keep hitting "NumLk" when I reach for "Backspace." But I'll get used to that. Right now I'm trying to decide which web browser to use. I started using Google Chrome on my other laptop a month or so ago, and I quite like that, but I dunno.

I am also completely caught up with Misfits and LOVING IT. Watched 2.04 after SPN last night and it did not leave me disappointed. Now that I'm caught up, though, that means I have to wait for episodes. Sad.

Comments

[spacefragments.livejournal.com]

i wasn't angry that crowley died, it was more the way he died. that big old "oh hey demons can be killed by burning their bones" asspull has pissed me off since it was brought up. now i see its purpose was an easy way to dispose of crowley. bah.

[annundriel.livejournal.com]

It is! Computer twins! :)

I also keep hitting the zero on the number pad when I go to use the arrow keys. That's going to take a little getting used to.

[annundriel.livejournal.com]

Mmm, yeah, that I can be angry about.

I really feel like they're not even trying. "Oh, we have a problem? Let's just write in a solution everyone conveniently didn't know about up until right this second when someone remembered."

Disappointing.

Also! I just remembered...What about Adam? Isn't he still down in the hole, too?

[qthelights.livejournal.com]

Computer triplets!! (i swear, my mind blanked on the word triplets just then and wanted me to substitute "threesome" instead...)

Though mine is red... have not had the nmlock problem, but i always press the wrong things with the arrows in the bottom corner.. oh and i always miss 'backspace' in the dark...

[spacefragments.livejournal.com]

the adam thing is a gigantic oversight. i'm gonna assume he got burnt out of his body when michael possessed him, like lucifer did with nick.

[love-jackianto.livejournal.com]

'You cannot spend the entire season so far growling at Cas for going off to deal with a CIVIL WAR IN HEAVEN and then turn sympathetic eyes on him when he's made to feel bad enough that he feels the need to apologize. You're going to give the guy whiplash.'
Tell me about it, did these writers even watch any of the previous episodes? I get these writers are new to show, but I would have thought that Sera said something to them. That Dean is very different from 'Don't be a dick Cas and help us' Dean. In my head Dean wanted Cas to stay after the Apocalypse and that's why he's been such a dick to Cas this season (it ties into Dean's abandonment issues) and now that it turns out that Cas really does want to stay, Dean feels bad.

'And the kiss? If it had been someone other than Meg, yeah, okay. But a demon? No.'
Yeah, I found that whole scene completely OOC for Cas. Hello, he called her an abomination in that same episode.

'It's been hard for me to remain completely absorbed in episodes this season. Which may be for the best.'
Me too.

[mulder200.livejournal.com]

The whole Cas/Meg scene just leaves me with a bad taste in my mouth and makes me glad I quit watching after six eps. I mean just NO!

Apparently, this eps. was written by new people but still that's hardly an excuse for this train wreck.

I think goodness I discovered the wonderful world of Merlin. Now, I can lose myself in fantasy and magic and knights.

[annundriel.livejournal.com]

Bwahaha threesome. ;)

I still keep shifting my hands just one too far to the right on the keyboard. I'm not used to having the numberpad there, and it's resulting in some pretty creative typos.

[annundriel.livejournal.com]

Good assumption. Still. Bad writers. (And poor Adam.)

[olivelavonne.livejournal.com]

So I'm going against the grain here, but I liked it. I feel like I should hide in shame because most of fandom seems to dislike this season but I find it interesting.

I'll admit, I laughed at the porn thing. I would say if it were just Dean and Cas that whole conversation would have gone NC-17 but with Sam there, I liked it. Also, with all the tough shit Cas is dealing with, I think he deserved to sit down and experience something new and just fuck around with Sam and Dean.

I don't blame Dean for the conversation at the end of the ep either. He didn't seem to know about what Sam said to get Cas to stay. He actually seemed surprised that Cas even showed up, let alone stayed and helped with their situation. I think that conversation happens with Dean thinking about Cas telling him off for wanting Cas to put Dean above everything else (no knowledge of the conversation with Sam). Which I can then understand him saying "no need for an apology, I was wrong and selfish."

I laughed at the Meg kiss too. The faces! Also I think I saw interest in Dean's reaction. I was just amused.

The thing I'm really interested in is the what the authors are saying about souls. That they're really just a conscious, a sense of right and wrong. That they can be destroyed by burning a person's bones (wich I don't think they pulled out of no where because that's how you "kill" a ghost/soul, and demons are souls gone terribly wrong/evil). Which means that souls don't stand on their own but are essentially connected to a person's physical body. At least outside of heaven or hell. That makes me wonder what burning the bones actually does. Does that end them or does that send them to heaven/hell? Are they really saying that souls can be killed and are really nothing more than a sense of right and wrong?

I feel special for wondering about that stuff. It seems like they're not putting a lot into what the soul is but I wonder if that could possibly be a plot point, especially with Sam and Adam stuck in hell.

Sorry. That is really long but what I've been thinking about.

[annundriel.livejournal.com]

In my head Dean wanted Cas to stay after the Apocalypse and that's why he's been such a dick to Cas this season (it ties into Dean's abandonment issues) and now that it turns out that Cas really does want to stay, Dean feels bad.

That's what I like to think, too. Dean's been an ass because he's upset that things didn't go the way he wanted them to. But Cas wasn't going to stay without Dean saying something. And Dean's incapable of saying anything. And I do think that it can be a case of Dean feeling bad about his behavior once Cas admits to wanting to be there and hating that he has to leave, but...it's so very night-and-day from Dean's previous behavior. If they'd finessed the transition a little more, I'd like it better. Because I did really like that little exchange between the two of them, I'm just annoyed it came out of nowhere.

Hello, he called her an abomination in that same episode.

Exactly! Plus, he can see her true face. So...how does it make any sense?

I feel a little odd saying that, since I've always wanted them to be a little less black and white with their evil and good, but here? No. It just doesn't work.

[annundriel.livejournal.com]

Yeah, some of my least favorite things this season have been written by new people, I think. Not particularly inspiring. :/

Merlin is so much fun! There's a show I need to catch up on. I've only seen seasons one and two.

[annundriel.livejournal.com]

See, I mostly like this season, I just dislike some of the specific things they're doing. Their overall arcs are interesting, though.

He actually seemed surprised that Cas even showed up, let alone stayed and helped with their situation. I think that conversation happens with Dean thinking about Cas telling him off for wanting Cas to put Dean above everything else (no knowledge of the conversation with Sam). Which I can then understand him saying "no need for an apology, I was wrong and selfish."

Oh no, he totally didn't know about Sam's little conversation with Cas. Except I don't think that makes it any better. I got Dean's "no need for an apology", but I didn't read any of the "I was wrong and selfish" in it. For me, I would have been happier if there had been some more obvious "Oh, yeah, I see now the error of my ways, Cas, and I'm sorry I was an ass. You don't have to apologize." Because, I mean, I did like the fact that Dean was understanding and, oh, the way they looked at each other over the Impala....but the change in Dean's reaction to the whole situation with Cas jumping back and forth between Heaven and Earth was a little too quick for my liking.

I did like the reactions to the kiss.

You ask some very good questions re:souls. My problem lately has been...why doesn't Sam need to sleep? What is it about a lack of soul that means his body doesn't need that recharge? I don't get it.

Does that end them or does that send them to heaven/hell? Are they really saying that souls can be killed and are really nothing more than a sense of right and wrong?

I don't know! I want to know! On someone else's LJ, the question was asked if Crowley was in Purgatory now, considering that's apparently where "monsters" go when they're offed. So...how does that play into it?

I want answers from this season!

[love-jackianto.livejournal.com]

'Because I did really like that little exchange between the two of them, I'm just annoyed it came out of nowhere.'
True. I've been wanting Dean to be not such a dick to Cas, but I thought there would be more build up (as in any) to it.

'I feel a little odd saying that, since I've always wanted them to be a little less black and white with their evil and good, but here? No. It just doesn't work.'
That's what I thought too, but then I thought A LOT of the episode didn't work. I could see what the writers were trying to do, but most of the time that episode felt like bad-fic that had been filmed. It makes no sense that Sam and Dean would work with Meg (she'd tried to kill them and did make Sam her meat suit once and as was pointed she did get Ellen and Jo killed), and it makes absolutely no sense that Cas would kiss a demon let alone her.

[annundriel.livejournal.com]

I could see what the writers were trying to do, but most of the time that episode felt like bad-fic that had been filmed.

I wonder how it would have turned out in the hands of more veteran writers. Or if it had more of a structure built around it. If the overall plot had been built up better, and perhaps not shoved into one 42 minute episode, it may have worked better? Otherwise it all seemed a bit...slap-dash.

[love-jackianto.livejournal.com]

'I wonder how it would have turned out in the hands of more veteran writers.'
I have to wonder that too. The idea for that episode looked really good on paper (how I wish Edlund had written it) but the main characters, especially Cas, were written so OOC and inconsistently that it just fell flat. How exactly did Dean go from being 'don't be a dick and help us, Cas' to 'I would help you if I could, Cas'?

'If the overall plot had been built up better, and perhaps not shoved into one 42 minute episode, it may have worked better?'
Yeah, it just seemed like they were trying to cram/wrap up too many storyline in that episode.