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annundriel) wrote2011-04-16 09:10 pm
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Supernatural
I honestly have no idea if any of this makes any sense. My head won't stop hurting.
Supernatural - "My Heart Will Go On"
Is this episode a good example of how ep descriptions and spoilers can be misleading? I think it might be. Because that was one hell of a stupid premise--Balthazar changes history because he doesn't want the Titanic to sink?--that turned into something pretty heartbreaking.
God damn it, Cas, you're killing me.
I spent the majority of the episode mildly annoyed because this seemed like a one-off plot that they don't have time for and then the truth came out and, yeah. I have to admit, that was nicely done.
As much as I might dread where it could go, I'm very excited about the shit hitting the fan. Because you know it's going to. There is no way it can't. It's going to be epic and heartbreaking and I cannot wait. Misha and Jensen are going to blow it out of the water.
Anyway. Random:
- "You're confusing me with the other angel. You know, the one in the dirty trench coat who's in love with you."
I don't know, I'm still kind of "meh" about it. I like it--I like it a lot, can't deny that--but at the same time... ::shrug:: Balthazar also called Cas Sam's boyfriend. (Maybe he is trying to start a fight between Dean and Sam? ;) Assuming that line was meant for Dean and not both of them.) I want to be excited for it like a lot of people are, but I'm just not.
- "...You need new friends, Cas."
"I'm trying to save the ones I have, Dean."
THAT. That is the line that got me. The way Cas said it, the tone and look, that hit me hard. Tied in with the Cas' scene with Fate later? He gave them truth wrapped up in a whole lot of lies. Because that's what it comes down to. The apocalypse didn't happen, there's chaos everywhere, Castiel is trying to make things work, and he's desperate to keep Dean and Sam safe.
It's Castiel's turn to answer: peace or freedom? And freedom at what cost?
Huh. I was just reminded of the idea that we can't ascribe human morality on non-human entities. We try to make sense of God and God's actions, but God isn't looking at things on the same level we are. We're back to God and God's bigger picture that Castiel talked about in "Are You There God? It's Me, Dean Winchester" and "It's the Great Pumpkin, Sam Winchester." We're even looking at a similar situation with the 50,000 people who would never be born if the Titanic sank. I imagine to a deity and an angelic being, that's small potatoes.
Except that Castiel is tied to Dean and Sam, and Castiel's been human, and this isn't just something he can distance himself from. He gave up everything to keep Dean's good opinion of him, to keep Dean's friendship. He's playing with history and souls now, the lives of thousands. He knows what Dean's opinion of that will be, and he desperately wants them to understand why he's doing what he is.
"You’re the ones who taught me that you can make your own destiny, that you don’t have to be ruled by fate. You can choose freedom. I still believe that that’s something worth fighting for. I just wanted you to understand that."
Cas. Cas.
He's going to break my heart.
- Considering who Castiel's human role models are, it's not entirely surprising he's behaving the way he is. Or making the choices he is. End of season five, he left Dean to help Heaven because Heaven was his family and Dean had shown him that you help your family. They may be dicks, but you're there for them.
The Winchesters are willing to let history change--to a point--to keep loved ones alive. So is Castiel.
- I wish this show made more sense sometimes. There's Fate--Atropos--from Greek mythology, but she's subject to God's will? Like we were given other deities and they were all sort of powerless in the face of, well, Lucifer (a friggin' angel)?
What.
Whatever, SPN. What. Ever.
(Least powerful all-powerful beings ever.)
Earlier in the day, after reading the episode description, my mom and I were like, "Whenever they say 'Fate intervenes,' a character named Fate should really show up and throw and intervention." We were tickled when that essentially happened.
- It was really nice seeing Ellen again. And knowing Jo was alive, too.
- That whole "better to have not been born at all than to die a horrible, messy death" gives me ideas.
Please keep in mind I am almost completely UNSPOILED for the remainder of the season. Let's try to keep it that way?
Supernatural - "My Heart Will Go On"
Is this episode a good example of how ep descriptions and spoilers can be misleading? I think it might be. Because that was one hell of a stupid premise--Balthazar changes history because he doesn't want the Titanic to sink?--that turned into something pretty heartbreaking.
God damn it, Cas, you're killing me.
I spent the majority of the episode mildly annoyed because this seemed like a one-off plot that they don't have time for and then the truth came out and, yeah. I have to admit, that was nicely done.
As much as I might dread where it could go, I'm very excited about the shit hitting the fan. Because you know it's going to. There is no way it can't. It's going to be epic and heartbreaking and I cannot wait. Misha and Jensen are going to blow it out of the water.
Anyway. Random:
- "You're confusing me with the other angel. You know, the one in the dirty trench coat who's in love with you."
I don't know, I'm still kind of "meh" about it. I like it--I like it a lot, can't deny that--but at the same time... ::shrug:: Balthazar also called Cas Sam's boyfriend. (Maybe he is trying to start a fight between Dean and Sam? ;) Assuming that line was meant for Dean and not both of them.) I want to be excited for it like a lot of people are, but I'm just not.
- "...You need new friends, Cas."
"I'm trying to save the ones I have, Dean."
THAT. That is the line that got me. The way Cas said it, the tone and look, that hit me hard. Tied in with the Cas' scene with Fate later? He gave them truth wrapped up in a whole lot of lies. Because that's what it comes down to. The apocalypse didn't happen, there's chaos everywhere, Castiel is trying to make things work, and he's desperate to keep Dean and Sam safe.
It's Castiel's turn to answer: peace or freedom? And freedom at what cost?
Huh. I was just reminded of the idea that we can't ascribe human morality on non-human entities. We try to make sense of God and God's actions, but God isn't looking at things on the same level we are. We're back to God and God's bigger picture that Castiel talked about in "Are You There God? It's Me, Dean Winchester" and "It's the Great Pumpkin, Sam Winchester." We're even looking at a similar situation with the 50,000 people who would never be born if the Titanic sank. I imagine to a deity and an angelic being, that's small potatoes.
Except that Castiel is tied to Dean and Sam, and Castiel's been human, and this isn't just something he can distance himself from. He gave up everything to keep Dean's good opinion of him, to keep Dean's friendship. He's playing with history and souls now, the lives of thousands. He knows what Dean's opinion of that will be, and he desperately wants them to understand why he's doing what he is.
"You’re the ones who taught me that you can make your own destiny, that you don’t have to be ruled by fate. You can choose freedom. I still believe that that’s something worth fighting for. I just wanted you to understand that."
Cas. Cas.
He's going to break my heart.
- Considering who Castiel's human role models are, it's not entirely surprising he's behaving the way he is. Or making the choices he is. End of season five, he left Dean to help Heaven because Heaven was his family and Dean had shown him that you help your family. They may be dicks, but you're there for them.
The Winchesters are willing to let history change--to a point--to keep loved ones alive. So is Castiel.
- I wish this show made more sense sometimes. There's Fate--Atropos--from Greek mythology, but she's subject to God's will? Like we were given other deities and they were all sort of powerless in the face of, well, Lucifer (a friggin' angel)?
What.
Whatever, SPN. What. Ever.
(Least powerful all-powerful beings ever.)
Earlier in the day, after reading the episode description, my mom and I were like, "Whenever they say 'Fate intervenes,' a character named Fate should really show up and throw and intervention." We were tickled when that essentially happened.
- It was really nice seeing Ellen again. And knowing Jo was alive, too.
- That whole "better to have not been born at all than to die a horrible, messy death" gives me ideas.
Please keep in mind I am almost completely UNSPOILED for the remainder of the season. Let's try to keep it that way?
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That said, I also wonder if keeping the boys out of the loop on a lot of the details isn't his way of trying to protect them.
Also at the end when Dean asks if Balthy really did just because he hated the movie and Cas says yes -- it's SO obvious Cas is lying but Dean just believes it, he has Cas blinders, he doesn't want to believe Cas would lie to him -- and eep. When it hits the fan it's going to be awesome in a heartbreaking way.
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Except that Castiel is tied to Dean and Sam, and Castiel's been human, and this isn't just something he can distance himself from. He gave up everything to keep Dean's good opinion of him, to keep Dean's friendship. He's playing with history and souls now, the lives of thousands. He knows what Dean's opinion of that will be, and he desperately wants them to understand why he's doing what he is.
Bingo! Castiel is making some difficult hard choices and I believe he feels guilt for it because he KNOWS that Dean would be horrified and disappointed so that's why he trying to keep them in the dark.
- I wish this show made more sense sometimes. There's Fate--Atropos--from Greek mythology, but she's subject to God's will? Like we were given other deities and they were all sort of powerless in the face of, well, Lucifer (a friggin' angel)?
What.
Whatever, SPN. What. Ever.
Yeah. Considering how SPN is so Christian based, throwing in these other deities is just not working well.
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I hate to say it, because I love my boys, but I haven't watched most of the season because I really really do not want to see Dean and Cas ripping at each other. It breaks my heart too much. Not that I'm surprised by it, but it hurts.
Someone was making noises about being worried that Cas is going to be the surprise Big Bad of the season, and I'm kind of wondering if they're setting up season seven (?!) for being the season where they bring Cas back to the "good" side, if that's the case. Or something.
(If there is a season seven and Cas is in it, there will have been more seasons with Misha than without him. Isn't that something?)
What does it say about me that I love this show even when I can't bring myself to watch it? XD
(I cheered the "angel who's in love with you" line anyway when I heard about it because a) duh and b) it's nice to believe that even when they're at bitter odds, Cas doesn't hate Dean. I choose to believe that Balthy was being a smarmy prick re: Sam.)
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It's Castiel's turn to answer: peace or freedom? And freedom at what cost?
I really hope they do ask this of Cas in the last few episodes, because it would be perfect - and that it's Dean to ask it. It would be like coming full circle, which any good TV writer knows is how you link your seasons and episodes to give them a more depth...or something like that :)
You're not alone in looking forward to the heartbreaking fallout that seems to be on the horizon. It will break me, but I love this show most when it makes me sob, and with Misha and Jensen sparking off each other that's a dead cert, those boys say so much with just their faces....add words... :'(
The way I'm reading the "angel in love with you" and Sam's boyfriend comments are that the latter is very much like playground teasing. Balthazar saw that Cas clearly had some affection for Sam, but rather than being "adult" and seeing as friendship he resorted to a version of "ooooooh look, it's your boyfriend!" *complete with internal giggling*
The "angel in love with you", while on paper it may have been a general comment towards the both of them, the editor/director made a choice by having the reaction shot be a single of Dean (which if I'm remembering all I learned at college about how you piece together shots and make meaning) is pretty much a definite "yes this comment was directed towards Dean, this is his reaction"
I digress, I feel the comment has more weight anyway because of the use of "love" - it's a significant emotion, rather than a teasing use of boyfriend. Also, despite the sarcasm dripping off the entire comment, it seemed more serious... I'm not sure how, but to me it did. May have something to do with Dean's borderline non-reaction, which to my little slashers heart spoke volumes!
But yeah, that's how I reasoned why one has more meaning XD
Very much enjoyed your thoughts, and I hope you remain unspoiled - if I somehow spew spoilers in your vicinity via Twitter, I'm really sorry and choice of punishment is yours!
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